Tim and his company support the MS-extensions in their custom edition. While Tim can speak best for his company, let me point out two things: + before we add those extensions (from what I can tell, we're talking about a microsoft directory in libraries/javalib and a few .c files that go in a shared library -- no changes or restrictions in the VM or the rest of the libraries), I'd rather see Tim add the new code generator or support for gcj. There are indeed more pressing issues than adding support for Microsoft Java. + Secondly, just what makes Microsoft Java better or worse than Sun Java? For us, that is, for the open source kaffe, the deciding factor as to whether to add or not add a given feature or API, should not be which company developed it, but whether there's people who really need and/or use it. Plus, what its technical merits are. Do people use Microsoft Java a lot? I don't know. But if they did, it would be nice to support it in Kaffe. Should Tim decide to offer the code for the public edition at some point, we can discuss the question of whether it's worth adding or not. Then, people who want it can speak up and if nobody wants it, there's no reason to add it. Finally, may I remind people that there's currently no running version of Kaffe for Windows (minus maybe a non-windowing version that runs under Cygwin), so this discussion---like so many discussions on news outlets such as slashdot---is a bit premature and pointless anyway. - Godmar