[kaffe] Can Kaffe profit from the released JDK in Sun's SCSL?

[Dalibor Topic]

--- Jim Pick <jim at kaffe.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 01:21, Mario Smit wrote:
> > Or is it legally not possible to mix SCSL and GPL code?
> 
> I haven't read the SCSL myself, but others have, and I haven't heard
> anybody claim that it's open enough to be considered an "open source"
> license.  I'm using the opensource.org definitition here, which is based
> on the Debian project's licensing guidelines.
> 
> Even mixing various open source licenses gets a bit messy.
> 
> I just stumbled across some articles this morning:
> 
> "ComputerWorld: Java Should Be Open-Source, Creator Says"
> 
>
http://www.computerworld.com/developmenttopics/development/java/story/0,10801,82157,00.html
> 
> "ComputerWorld: Q&A: Sun's Jonathan Schwartz on Java's future"
> 
>
http://www.computerworld.com/developmenttopics/development/java/story/0,10801,82286,00.html
> 
> So it looks like Sun is at least talking about it...

Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's going to be GPL compatible. At least they
GPLed Star Office. ;)

More information on SCSL:

http://www.advogato.org/article/102.html
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch5.html
http://eu.conecta.it/paper/Case_study_non_open.html

I'd sum it up as: "SCSL is bad for you". ;)

Anyway, it would be nice if they would release their Java Compatibility Kit for
recent versions. Then clean-room projects like kaffe could be evaluated by
anyone on how well they comply to Sun's tests of the specs. 

I don't know why Sun didn't free the JCK to counter Microsoft's actions back
then. If they had released it, everybody could have easily evaluated for
themselves how shoddy Microsoft's implementation was.

cheers,
dalibor topic

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