All, So is anyone at JavaOne this week? If so we should meet up for Beer and whatnot. How about Wednesday at 645pm in the Hackers Lab South (that's the small one). Cheers Tim -- Tim Wilkinson Tel: +1 510 704 1660 Transvirtual Technologies, Inc., Fax: +1 510 704 1893 Berkeley, CA, USA. Email: tim at transvirtual.com