[kaffe-siteadmin] Shining up the website

Nektarios K. Papadopoulos npapadop at inaccessnetworks.com
Wed Oct 19 02:50:31 PDT 2005


Hi,

I don't know much about PHP and I've never tried it but I found this link that 
seems relevant:

"Using PHP With Tomcat"

http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-tomcat/UsingPhp

cheers,
Nektarios

Kristian Rasmussen wrote:
> On 10/18/05, Jim Pick <jim at kaffe.org> wrote:
> 
>>Server-wise, I'd like to set it up in a Xen session.  I've got lots of
>>space on my new server.
> 
> Sounds great.
> 
> 
>>The only comment I have about using PHP is just that we won't be able to
>>run the website on Kaffe (eg. using Tomcat or some other web server).  I
>>  always thought it would be sort of cool if the project was self-hosting.
> 
> Yeah, I can see that. Is there no way to make PHP run on Tomcat or the like?
> 
> 
>>What do you think about using some sort of a CMS?  Or do you prefer
>>static web pages?
> 
> Well, most CMS-systems are based on PHP, so that's results in the
> same. We could try something that runs on Python or Perl, but I don't
> really know if they're mature enough yet?
> 
> The main thing is that things get more complicated when I have to deal
> with foreign (and often complex) code. Especially will the design
> often become hard to control. CMS's often have many features we don't
> need, and they have to be stripped for the website not to get bloated
> and with many unused and irrelevant sections.
> 
> Therefore, I usually make my own little CMS, that lets people control
> the content of the pages and nothing more. I usually then store the
> content in a MySQL/PGSQL-database. For "users", a textarea is usually
> better than files they have to handle themselves. In this case, since
> you guys are geeks, I figured it would be better for you to edit the
> files yourselves, as you always have done.
> 
> I see two choices:
> 1. Make the server run PHP
> 2. Base it on Perl, Python (i do neither) or just SSI as before
> 
> Also, i'd like to know if there are any other things we would use
> something dynamic (based on PHP or something other server-side) for,
> except the includes for the site structure? Like a forum, a
> news-system or a calendar?
> 
> Cheers,
> Kristian
> 
> 
>>Cheers,
>>
>>  - Jim
>>
>>Kristian Rasmussen wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>A while ago, i started talking with dalibor on IRC about how I could
>>>contribute. Dalibor said that the website could use a new design and a
>>>proper codebase. Since I'm a web person and, besides that, a
>>>non-programmer, I took the job. I've only recently begun working on
>>>it.
>>>
>>>Here's the plan, as currently imagined in my head and as discussed with dalibor:
>>>*Make a new codebase (proper code, strict xhtml) on the same design
>>>with easily changeable design (i. e. html that lets css control the
>>>design)
>>>*Make a new design, which hopefully then will be easily changeable
>>>
>>>Now, here comes the slightly more controversial part: My plan is to
>>>base it on PHP, so as to get some more flexibility and some fewer
>>>bytes. Also, it's what I'm used to working in.
>>>
>>>More specifically, to replace the current SSI-include system, I'm
>>>going to let each page be included in the index.
>>>
>>>Does anyone have any objections against that? And what's the
>>>situation, server-wise?
>>>
>>>/Kristian Rasmussen
>>>
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